Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. Basic Religions Not Measured Against Other World Religions on an Evolutionary Scale 1. to express appreciation for your detailed interaction with what I’ve written!”, “These reviews of yours are so bloody weird!”, “Very good. Universalizing religions: Attribute creation of universe to a supreme being/god. May attempt to explain a little more in a future post. Filed under: Religion and Atheism Tags: Fundamentalism, Pataki: Against Religion Looking forward to more segments.”, “Many thanks for this post, and for the quality of your blog.“, “I want to say here that this site is so resourceful and highly on top of the most modern scholarship in the areas discussed here. Personal experiences not only confirm faith, they also help in personalizing God within the mind of the believer, thus allowing contact on a more personal level. Ritual is the way in which religion expresses itself: worship services, prayers, etc. Hindu civilization then descended into a long decline that was exacerbated by the pacifism and nihilism of Buddhism and Jainism, which were seen as failed off shoots of Hinduism and not separate religions from Hinduism. Give at least three examples of how religions have incorporated characteristics of cosmology. I think that people need to be engaged with and ideas need to considered and judged. If so, you are expressing part of the black and white problematic phenomenon that Patik is attempting to help us understand — at a psychological level. All different. Public marks of distinction are needed to maintain their sense of superiority and distinctive identity. The six most relevant characteristics are listed below: To read more about Neil, see our. Are you wishing instead that there be theological debates so that the one group you favour has a chance to prove their beliefs and disprove the others? (Part 3), Pit Stop in the Nanine Charbonnel Posts on the Literary Construction of Jesus Christ, The Why and What of WikiLeaks — and the Fear and Self-Censorship Response, Gospels Cut from Jewish Scriptures, #7 (conclusion), The antidote to George Orwell’s memory hole in 1984, Did Jonathan Z. Smith Really Not Understand Ideal Types? This vain question has to be considered, hardly discussed. Neil is the author of this post. 1. Soteriological(having to do with salvation): Post-archaic reli- gions are schemes of salvation, concerned with the source, nature, and appropriate methods of removal of some evil be- lieved to afflict humans. 6. By the way, my thanks to Neil for an ongoing superb job of exposing Jim’s review for what it is: a farcical and none too effective exercise in mythicism assassination, nothing to do with rational, let alone unbiased, scholarship. Doctrines most commonly make use of myths and symbols. Each of these castes is a well developed social group, the membership of … Patik discusses the changes in usage and application of the word ‘fundamentalist’ in the last few decades. Fantastic. I find your blog most interesting and appreciate your ongoing effort to keep to the evidence for the issues discussed! — Earl Doherty, November 2013 (personal email). (I’m reminded in particular of a famous study some decades ago of millenialist movements in the middle ages, “The Pursuit of the Millennium“.). I know of no other site which offers a wide range of topics related to careful critical analysis of historically and scripturally related issues.”, “I think you have a high quality blog that provides a positive public service by discussing academic topics within a wider audience.”, “I have found your website really valuable as an interpretive filter for Biblical scholarship, especially the origins of Christianity and historicity of Jesus issue. . They are a correct representation of the particular groups he has chosen to characterise (or perhaps caricature). If we don’t use fundamentalist to refer to those groups, then you are free to suggest another word for them, and we can discuss them under that term if you wish. Another Pointer Towards a Late Date for the Gospel of Mark? Organized religion is established for the explicit purpose of allowing a minority, the priesthood, to maintain mental (spiritual) control over its converts. 5. I’ll try to offer something more substantial than “Thank you” in response at some point, but I didn’t want to wait . I believe people can be convinced by reason. They find this information in the first book of the Old Testament, Genesis, which states: More often than not, the beliefs and ethical ideals of a religion are determined by the prevailing social conditions and attitudes within its community of origin. Best, John”, — John Moles, September 2011 (personal email). Organized religions are usually governed by ethical codes for good conduct. No doubt individuals can be convinced. (p.32). Your voice is unique. Pataki is referring to groups commonly referred to as fundamentalist today. But it is also surely clear I was addressing not individuals but religious movements, another matter entirely, and it goes without saying that none of these will disappear via “rational” debate. Elements of Religious Traditions Paper Patricia Summerville REL 134 August 23, 2010 Clark Frailey Abstract Religion is practiced by believers all over the world. As Pataki comments, this notion of government has a medieval tincture to it. Beware of the Biased Distinction Between Civilized and (Part 1), Brodie: Beyond the Quest for the Historical Jesus. They are “the Chosen”, “the Elect”, “the Saved”. Catholicism is a remarkably rich religion, characterized by a complex tapestry of beliefs, practices, values, rituals, traditions, and more. . There is only one true religion and one correct way of life; and these must be defended against inroads from other religions and secularism. by Neil Godfrey . In India they established the Hindu Golden Age described in the Ramayana and the Mahabharata. In an earlier post you suggested everyone thinks that way. They had feasts to honour their gods 7. There is no middle ground. (I would qualify Pataki here by saying that some groups see themselves as having their superiority “imputed” to them by God and they would never let themselves think their superiority is innate in themselves.) Does anyone dispute that there are many Islamic and Jewish and Christian movements that can generally be described (with widespread agreement) as fundamentalist despite their differences in specific dogmas? Therefore, both mythological and doctrinal dimensions of religion nearly always must be viewed in a 'going hand-in-hand' manner. Their ancestors came to America to preserve their 17th century religious prejudices and today’s descendants have remained isolated as the rest of the world has long since moved on. Maybe that’s the problem with labels. In religious usage, primarily in storytelling that explains spiritual phenomena or the origins of doctrines, it is neutral as to the truth or falsity of the tale enshrined in the myth. Unfortunately,there is no current consensus on a precise identification of thenecessary and sufficient conditions of what counts as a religion. The 7 Main Characteristics of Religion Some characteristics of religion are the worship of gods or prophets, beliefs in a system of norms and values, symbology or places of worship. Pataki notes that this attitude “is not restricted to fundamentalist groups but is a prominent mark of all of them.” (p.29). Your objections point to this very fear — of losing distinctness of identity. 1. R – Religion: which might include priests and temples. Your email address will not be published. . A civilization is a complex culture in which large numbers of human beings share a number of common elements. , They may well be commonly referred to fundamentalist. My point was mainly that while these groups may well be referred to by a majority as ‘fundamentalist’ and they display these 10 ‘problems’ we should still be cautious about how we use the word fundamentalist. There is no attempt to impose idiosyncratically his own labels on his pet subjects. And you’d be right. 2. As an Atheist and gay male, I cannot believe the lies and crap that millions of bible believers are taught in sunday school and in church. Islam does not involve abstract ideas that are hard to believe. . Even civic law must derive from the holy books. Please carry on.”, Thanks much for this book review. The Mythological Dimension of Religion is composed of myths, symbols, and tales through which the Spiritual World is symbolized. Institutionalized religion teaches that its priesthood has the secretive knowledge required to overcome such fears. People do convert to and from Christianity/Atheism/Islam/Buddhism etc.. Segmental division of society: The caste system divides the whole society into various segments or sections. Characteristics of African religion A Supreme being: Throughout most of Africa there is belief of a supreme being, described by one or more names, either in terms of activities or place of abode. What you’re saying is that I should just read the book instead of hassling you about it. 8. Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. Six of the most important characteristics are: cities, government, religion, social structure, writing and art. They built high places for their gods and goddesses 6. Basic Characteristics of Religion. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. It is easy for everyone to read and understand the Noble Quran and the Hadith (Traditions of the Prophet (pbuh), and to adjust his life accordingly. And such is to be considered a good thing, a completely natural occurrence. Wetherefore currently lack a decisive criterion that would enable clearrulings whether some movements should count as religions (e.g.,Scientology or Cargo cults of the Pacific islands). They also have an agenda to convert all children to their religion by brainwashing them with more crap. Tags: Fundamentalism, Pataki: Against Religion. I still wonder at all the material you turn out for Vridar. Characteristics of God. This is not in Pataki’s book, but the following Hindu example is copied from here. . Why Scholars Came to Think of Jesus as an Apocalyptic Prophet, On Internet Censorship and Mainstream Propaganda, Substance and Image in Domestic and International Political Power, Did Jonathan Z. Smith Really Not Understand Ideal Types? He notes that the above attributes cluster in patterns that point to something quite possibly independent of cultural variables — a certain set of psychological traits that he sees bound inextricably with narcissism. I don’t think the ten are a fair representation of all fundamentals. Sad that the US of A is more becoming a theocracy. Personal religious experience usually revolves around existing doctrines, and is most commonly associated with the mythological and symbolic aspects of the religion. The more I read your stuff (and I still do, of course), the more I realize how much we all owe you. Characteristically Religious Feelings Awe, a sense of mystery, a sense of guilt, and adoration are "religious feelings" which tend to be aroused in religious believers when they come in the presence of sacred objects, in sacred places, and during the practice of sacred rituals. The House of Worship (church, temple, mosque, etc) is the traditional place wherein congregational religious rituals and ceremonies are performed. It’s always gratifying when a reader zeroes in on exactly those aspects I thought were most interesting and most central to my argument. He refers to the common contemporary use of the word “fundamentalist” as used commonly by people and in the media. When less emphasis is placed upon the spiritual aspect, and the physical actions are allowed dominance, as is often the case in congregational rituals and ceremonies, the ritual then becomes much like an empty shell, containing little if any true substance... becoming worth next to nothing from a positive spiritual viewpoint. The moral life according to the will of God can only be fully lived in a society of fellow-practitioners of the belief. To him, charismatic leaders are said to possess superior debating and persuasive skills and technical expertise, to foster attitudinal, behavioral and emotional changes in their followers. G – Geography: that is not likely to suddenly change. He is not “lumping” people together illegitimately or in any personal dismissive sense, he is classifying social movements and groupings, ….. just as another social psychologist might classify and study groups with other characteristics, such as attitudes towards public education, capital punishment, environmental consciousness, etc. I doubt it. To suggest that “tolerance” and “reasonable” and “enlightenment” (ie understanding) are “black and white” views of the world, or in any sense the equivalent of “elect”, “chosen” or “unique” is simply nonsense and a facile perversion of what is meant by “black and white” etc. ), along with the consequent bloodshed; the militancy, threats, intimidation and sometimes violence on the part of America’s “Christian Right”. He in part supports this psychological interpretation of fundamentalist movements with the fact that the same psychological symptoms (evidenced in those 10 characteristics) are found across widely divergent cultures. Common Characteristics of Religions Most religions include belief in the supernatural (spirits, gods, God) or belief in some other Ultimate Reality beyond, yet connected to, human experience and existence. These days it is a term given to groups we (the majority) don’t like but it isn’t the correct use of this word. When viewed "from the outside"--that is, by those who do not share its communal life--Catholicism is probably most frequently identified by its most public expressions, such as its communal worship and the well-known and central role played by the pope. Note that I do not use the term ‘amateur’ pejoratively. Books and publications are covered with a range of perspectives with attempts at fair and accurate representation of others’ arguments and content (where there are occasional and inevitable missteps on that I notice Neil making corrections and apologies where warranted, which wins points with me). I don’t always agree with them, but I respect their work.”. This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International License. “The control of female sexuality is sometimes linked with the fear of emasculation and homosexuality.” The fear of men being led to become like women is expressed in Islamic and Christian writings. I think people can be convinced though. 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